Gearstar 4l80e



4L80-E/4L85-E
Overview
ManufacturerGeneral Motors
Production1991–2013
Body and chassis
Class4-speed longitudinalautomatic transmission
Chronology
PredecessorTurbo-Hydramatic 3L80
Successor6L80/6L90
  1. Gearstar 4l80e
  2. Gearstar 4l80e Level 3
  3. Gearstar 700r4 Transmission
  4. Gearstar 4l80e Level 3

The 4L80-E (and similar 4L85-E) was a series of heavy-duty automatic transmissions from General Motors designed for longitudinal engine configurations. The 4L80-E was heavily based on the Turbo-Hydramatic 400 first produced in October 1963, adding electronic controls and an overdriven fourth gear. 4L80-Es were optioned only in Chevrolet/GMC pickups, Suburban 2500s, vans, and commercial vehicles, and the Hummer H1. It was also adopted by Rolls-Royce in 1991 and modified after extensive testing,[1] and used initially in the Bentley Continental R, and subsequently other Rolls-Royce and Bentley vehicles. The 4L80E and 4L85E were built at Willow Run Transmission in Ypsilanti, Michigan.

Gear ratios:

Horse Power: 600 (Up to 600 ft-lbs Torque) Converter: 10' Custom Built Lock-Up Billet Racing Stall: 2600-3600 CORE CHARGE: $650 ATF: $150. 4L80E – Level 2 Transmission with Torque Converter. Email this page to a friend. Horse Power: 500 (500 Torque) Converter: HD Towing & 4WD Lock-Up Stall: 1800-2200Master Overhaul Kit with New Steel Plates Raybestos High Energy Frictions Transgo. Engineered to Dominate, the 4L80E SS Mega Monster transmission is tough enough to withstand the rigors of even the toughest street machines delivering tire-spinning shifts race after race. It is ideal for vehicles powered by engines producing up to 750 horsepower using pump gasoline. The 4L80-E was heavily based on the Turbo-Hydramatic 400 first produced in October 1963, adding electronic controls and an overdriven fourth gear. 4L80-Es were optioned only in Chevrolet/GMC pickups, Suburban 2500s, vans, and commercial vehicles, and the Hummer H1.

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4L80-E[edit]

A Hydra-Matic 4L80 transmission at the Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum

The 4L80-E (RPO MT1) is rated to handle engines with up to 440 ft·lbf (597 N·m) of torque.[2] The 4L80-E is rated to max GVWR of 18,000 (Axle and vehicle dependent)[3]

The 4L80-E uses 2 shift solenoids, initially called Shift Solenoid A & Shift Solenoid B, later changed to comply with OBD II (On Board Diagnostics revision 2) regulations to 1-2 Shift Solenoid & 2-3 Shift solenoid. By activating and deactivating the solenoids in a predetermined pattern by the PCM, 4 distinct gear ratios can be achieved. The shift solenoid pattern, also sometimes referred to as solenoid firing order, is as follows;

Shift Solenoid Pattern[edit]

1-2 Solenoid2-3 Solenoid
1st GearOnOff
2nd GearOffOff
3rd GearOffOn
4th GearOnOn

No power results in 2nd Gear as 'Limp home mode'.

Gearstar 700r4 transmission

Gearstar 4l80e

Applications[edit]

  • 1991–2013 Chevrolet C/K/Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra 2500 & 3500
  • 1991–2013 Chevrolet/GMC Suburban/GMC Yukon XL 2500 & 3500
  • 1991–2009 Chevrolet Van/Chevrolet Express/GMC Savana 2500 & 3500
  • 2002–2006 Chevrolet Avalanche 2500 General Motors LS with L18 V8 only
  • 1992-2006 Hummer H1
  • 1992–1998 Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit/Spur II, III, IV
  • 1991–1992 Bentley Eight
  • 1991–1997 Bentley Turbo R
  • 1991–2002 Bentley Continental R/S/T
  • 1999–2006 Bentley Arnage Red Label / Bentley Arnage R/RL/T
  • 1993–1996 Jaguar XJS
  • 1994–1997 Jaguar XJR
  • 1993–1997 Jaguar XJ12 / Daimler Double Six
  • 1996–1999 Aston Martin DB7
  • 2000-2006 Chevrolet HD trucks with L18 V8

4L85-E[edit]

The 4L85-E (RPO MN8) is rated to handle vehicles with up to 690 ft·lbf (935 N·m) of torque.[4] The 4L85E is rated to handle vehicles with a GVWR of up to 18,000 lbs (dependent on axle ratio and vehicle)[5]

Applications:

  • Chevrolet Avalanche8.1 Vortec only.
  • Chevrolet Suburban 8.1 Vortec only.
  • GMC Yukon XL 8.1 Vortec only.
  • Chevrolet Express with Duramax Diesel or 8.1 Vortec 2500 & 3500 only.
  • GMC Savana with Duramax Diesel or 8.1 Vortec only.

See also[edit]

Gearstar 4l80e Level 3

References[edit]

  1. ^Adcock, Ian (1992). Bentley Continental R. London: Osprey Publishing. p. 113. ISBN185532 260 9.
  2. ^'Archived copy'. Archived from the original on 2013-12-22. Retrieved December 22, 2013.CS1 maint: discouraged parameter (link) CS1 maint: archived copy as title (link)
  3. ^GM Powertrain. '07 Hydramatic 4L series'. General Motors. Retrieved January 5, 2014.CS1 maint: discouraged parameter (link)
  4. ^https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/transmissions/supermatic-4l85-e
  5. ^GM powertrain. '07 Hydramatic 4L Series Specs'. General Motors. Retrieved January 5, 2014.CS1 maint: discouraged parameter (link)
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98-02 Camaro/Firebird 4L80E/4L85E Transmission Upgrade

If You’re Tired Of Blowing Up Your Fourth-Gen’s Slushbox, Then It’s Time To Upgrade To A 4L85E.


Muscle car guys can call it character if they please, but there’s nothing fashionable about single-digit gas mileage, subjecting your ears to a NVH beat down, or sweating like an Illinois governor. Late-models are all about knocking down 25 mpg on the way to the track, effortlessly clicking off 10-second passes while you’re there, then cruising back home in a quiet, climate-controlled cabin while the muscle car guys watch in disbelief.

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Yeah, baby. The problem is that if your 4L60-equipped fourth-gen actually runs that fast, it won’t be long until the trans goes kaput. Not only is it ridiculously easy to eclipse the 500 hp mark with either an LT1 or LS1 Camaro, the fact that fourth-gens are already anywhere from 7- to 16-years-old—and usually have tons of miles on the clock—only compounds matters. Likewise, even the greatest of transmission builders have a tough time getting 4L60s to survive much past the mid-10-second mark. Perhaps the ideal solution is swapping in a heavy-duty 4L85E, and fortunately, Gearstar has it all figured out.

History has proven that the swap in question is an endeavor that’s very common, yet rarely executed. Instead, hard-core enthusiasts often opt for track-proven three-speeds such as the TH350 and TH400. Some simply adjust to the ignominy of life without overdrive, while others bolt on a Gear Vendors assembly to the tailshaft. Either option works just fine, but the 4L85E combines the best of both worlds. Essentially a TH400 with overdrive and more rugged internals, the GM 4L85E is the ultimate automatic.

When built right, they can handle over 1,000 hp reliably, and best of all, transplanting one into a fourth-gen is much easier than Internet mythology suggests. “People are very intimidated by the 4L85E. They think that swapping it into a fourth-gen requires a lot of fab work, but that’s just not true,” says Zack Farah of Gearstar. “The trans tunnel does not need to be massaged anywhere, and there’s very little cutting involved. It’s not the cheapest option out there, but it’s a long-term solution to a long-term problem, and it’s something you’ll only have to do once. Getting the electronics to work isn’t difficult at all, and you can even set it up with a full-manual valvebody which eliminates the need for a trans computer entirely.”

To see if the swap is as easy as promised, we watched as Gearstar’s technicians went to work on the company’s 2000 Camaro SS. Much sooner than anticipated, the crew was done. We now see a growing population of 4L85E-equipped fourth-gens in the near future, but don’t take our word for it. Read along and make the call for yourself.
In order to make it clear the long-tube headers, Gearstar removed 1 1/2 inches of metal off of the dust cover ear on the transmission case. While this procedure was performed on a lathe, a die grinder will work just as well. Surprisingly, this was the only grinding necessary on the case to get it to fit.

Made from flexible steel-braided hose, Gearstar’s custom trans dipstick eliminated the need to bend and wrestle with rigid tube when routing it through the chassis. Longer and larger in diameter than the stock piece, it doubles as a filler tube as well. An adjustable bracket enabled Gearstar to mount it on the cowl, although other locations will work as well.

The only cutting required was a 4-inch section of metal on the driver side of the trans tunnel just ahead of the crossmember. This provides clearance for the wiring harness bolt head. With the trans mocked into place, Gearstar technicians marked the area with a Sharpie, then cut and removed the metal section with a cutoff wheel. Since the metal flap isn’t a structural member, it has no adverse affects on chassis stiffness.

True to the car’s sleeker appearance, Gearstar removed the stock shift lever and mounted a B&M Pro Stick shifter inside the factory center console.

The B&M shift cable and trans brake line were routed through a factory hole located on the trans tunnel right above the crossmember mount. To get rid of some slack, the cables were angled rearward by attaching them to the fuel line with zip ties, then routed back forward on a gradual bend.

Should a transmission ever overheat, it’s designed to puke fluid out of the breather tube to relieve internal pressure. The factory tube is only three- to four inches long, and dumps fluid right on the case. To avoid a potential mess, Gearstar extended the tube all the way to the tailshaft housing.

4l80e

Not only is the slip yoke used on the 4L85E significantly larger than that of the 4L60E, it features 32 splines instead of 27. Gearstar matched the yoke up with beefy 1350 U-joints. The upgraded yoke assembly can be welded onto any driveshaft during the shortening process.

Gearstar 700r4 Transmission

With the popularity of the TH400 swap, many manufacturers offer torque converters that fit the LS1’s bolt pattern. This isn’t necessary with the 4L85E, as it was designed for LS-series motors from the get go. From this view, it’s clear where the dust cover area of the trans case will smack into the passenger-side header if it isn’t ground down. While it’s possible to dimple the Number 7 primary, the potential for impeding exhaust flow isn’t worth the risk.

With all the prep work complete, the 4L85E was raised into place. Needless to say, it fits beautifully beneath a fourth-gen and looks like a factory install. The custom fabricated low-profile Moroso trans pan features a rear-mounted pickup tube to avoid starvation at the dragstrip, and provides improved ground clearance over a stock 4L60E.

Gearstar prefers factory rubber transmission mounts in most street strip applications, but went with a custom urethane piece due to the SS’s 8-second potential. If the added vibrations are too harsh for your tastes, a factory GM 1LE rubber mount (PN 22146231) is a good alternative.

Measuring slightly longer than a 4L60E, swapping in a 4L85E requires shortening the driveshaft by ¼ inch. Consequently, Gearstar installed a custom 3-inch-diamter heavy-duty steel shaft with 1350 U-joints and a 32-spline slip yoke. It’s affixed to the Moser 9-inch rearend with custom billet steel U-joint straps.

Gearstar 4l80e Level 3

The final order of business underneath the car was securing the shift cable to the gear selector on the trans case using a lock washer, then attaching the cable bracket to the transmission pan rail.

Prior to shipment, or installation in this instance, Gearstar runs all of its transmissions on a specialized dyno. Not only does this allow properly setting shift timing and firmness, it also breaks in the fresh clutches and steels, after which the old fluid and debris is drained. Furthermore, the dyno can simulate engine and driveline load—which enables precisely dialing in converter stall speed—and replicate road speeds up to 130 mph. In essence, the dyno catches any potential problems before a transmission in bolted into a car.

Mounted on the passenger side of the firewall where the heater box used to be, a GM Performance Parts transmission control computer (PN 12497316) sends electronic signals to the 4L85E. Since it’s a standalone unit, the plug-and-play harness attaches directly into the transmission and doesn’t require splicing the factory wiring.

The system includes the computer, a wiring harness, a software disk, and an interface cable that hooks up to a laptop. The software allows programming shift points, part- and WOT shift firmness, and the final drive ratio. Hutter Racing (www.hutterracing.com) dialed in the final tune. Gearstar can also set up the 4L85E with a full-manual valvebody, which eliminates the need for a separate computer. Note the location of the cowl-mounted dipstick.

TH400 vs. 4L80E vs. 4L85E
The alphabet soup that is GM transmissions can be a bit confusing, and there were some key evolutionary tweaks that accompanied each change in designation of the General’s stalwart automatic. First introduced in 1964, the TH400 has always been GM’s heavy-duty transmission of choice. During its day, the factory has bolted it behind everything from 500ci Cadillacs to big-block Chevelles, to full-size vans and school buses.

The first major revision to the TH400 came in 1991, when GM added a 0.75:1 overdrive and electronic controls, and renamed it the 4L80E. It soldiered on mostly unchanged for over a decade until it was updated again in 2002 and dubbed the 4L85E. Upgrading the 4L80E’s four-pinion front and rear planetary gear sets significantly increased torque capacity and durability. Other changes included higher-capacity clutches and drums, and a more sophisticated valvebody. Since the 4L85E was designed specifically for use behind LS-series motors, it features an additional boss at the top of the bellhousing that aligns with the extra dowel present on LS blocks.